Nexus, Mundubbera Valleys. Partially swamp forrested valleys sparsely populated.

BigM shudders, " heck no for our world thank goodness really... she was a stone cold ninja b i t c h." he was going to say the word then remembered there was two kids here, sure he wasn't sure one would understand it and the other couldn't say it even if he did understand... for now... maybe forever? Well BigM was more than happy to teach the kids bad words and manners - when their dads were not present and he could blame it on another Raph. Or other Mikey. hehehe


Raphie glances at Lee and gives him a bit of a shove, making him eeeep and Chompy hiss out an amused sort of churry haha and Randal giggle. " what the heck is it with you and sort of siblings man? I mean we arent but are... sort of." but he doesn't care for the moment. Amused glance at Raph about his Mikey, " sounds like quiet the Mikey, and no our Karai is not even remotely related to us... on that note if she had of been maybe her loyalty might have skewed more in our favour. So think that quirk is mostly all your Leo..." or his Lee haha


There was a rattle of hooves and one of the female Fulcire loomed outside.


Erica tilts her head and grins at Raph, " sometimes even here not close... but same family become partners. Not wide practice... but sometimes." she was sort of following along with what they were talking about.

"HA! Sounds like her. With a healthy dose of Sass. What about you? Your Leo into Karai?" Raph asked of BigM.

And he laughed at his counterpart. "Yeah, My Leo, and... appparently... you."

Raph is trying not to be obvious about sort of paying attention to the looming fuilcre, but he is a bit curious about it. Leo doesn't seemed perturbed about it though, so he's not that concerned.

"Yeah... That's called inbreeding where we're from, and it don't end well."

A nod, " agreeeeeeed that is why I am determined to have one of these returned genio innocuo father mine." Erica agrees with a happy grin. Slapping her tail over BigM's head as he nudges her and waggles eye ridges offering to do the deed for her.


Chucklign and not minding the rebuke as it was playful and offering the cow lady thing a cheeky grin he mmmmmmms at Raph's question as Lee turns to deal with this visit, " to be honest we didn't have much time to get to know the woman away from a fight, so if Leonardo had the hots for her he never showed it. And tried to and almost killed her a few times - In fact he didn't seem to have much interest in anything but training and being leader and training until he joined Primal Instincts with the rest of us... and as Raphael put it pulled that stick out of his ass."


Raphie sniggers and thumps Raph's shoulder, " And me I guess... if I guess I am hoping for some female action and your Lee claims to have two scary strong sassy kick ass chickes... gotta get me some of that." he points out to Raph watching the big cow lady and Lee meet with foreheads and the female pull away.


Lee chuckles and shoves Raphie a bit with his foot, " Ohhhh I see you only like me for my chicks." fake sad face and a bit of a wink, ' well luckily for me I choose siblings who either can't have my kids or I his and or threatened me with being swallowed whole or turned into a frog if I mentioned eggs or babies so not happening. And the Fulcrie say we are on the move." the cart rattling a bit as the bird camels started off.


Raph does the double guns for Lee as if yep it was all for the chicks.


Chompy and Randal still playing their odd game of peek a boo.

Raph is chuckling at Erica's desire to have half-breed Genio Innocuo, and BigM's repeated offer. Doesn't seem she's going to have any trouble finding that she's looking for. Though it sounds like she already has another one in mind. Raph sort of wonders who it was.

Hmm... he doesn't consider his Leo to be a guy with a stick up his ass. Total dork yes, but... not exactly a stick. And... turns to his counterpart. "Your brother Leo have a stick up the ass like his used to, or just a total dork like Lee?"

And when Raphie is talking about chickies, Raph is shooting a look at BigM. Uuuhh... huh... yup... just the girls. Of course. He doesn't believe that. Not for a moment.

"Dunno, you might look better as a frog."

Raph is interacting with the conversation, but he's really paying more attention to the kid's game. They're SOOOOO CUUUUUUUUTE!!!!

Randal and Chompy are using the limbs and bodies of the bigger turtles to duck behind and randomly pop out and if they see each other they squeak and or chirp and laugh then duck behind trying to find a new spot to 'peek' out from.


Erica is highly amused by the repeated offer.


BigM grins and rests back snorting at Raph's look and rolling his eyes. " lucky he has two chicks then huh one each?" he teases the two - hahaha yep good cover but not quiet good enough.


Raph hmmmmms a bit as Lee sniggers and tells BigM precisely, " I.... well yes and no... I mean most times he is prime and proper and honour code, but sometimes he can be a big ol' dork or surprisingly complicit in mischief as Mikey and I." oh yeah his Don would be proud of him using big words and somewhat the proper pronunciations - what the heck is Lee doing to him?


" precisely, one each... though I think that would be the girls mostly thinking one each, both of them are the kinds of gals you don't wanna make mad or disappointed... think I have been smoke bombed to the face more than I can count. Hah probably Raph by I am not giving SpiderBites a reason to keep calling us Battle Toads."

The snigger at BigM's words is hidden behind watching the kids. Uh huh... yes, he's tooootally laughing at the kids right now. Yup.

"Com...pli...cit..." This time the side-eye to BigM is obvious. "Yooouurrrrr Raph use big words like that? Or just ya Donnie?" Okay... maaaybe a Leo would do it, but definitely not a Raph! And he's having way too much fun messing with this other Raph. Who really just keeps giving him reason!

He laughed at the Battle Toads. "Hey, at least it'd actually be right for a change. Maybe he'd actually call the rest of us turtles for a change."

BigM laughs and shakes his head, " Nooope and the last time Donatello tried to give Raphael a dictionary to try improving his vocabularly the brain was stupid enough to suggest Raphael do what he wants with it and literally handed Raphael the come back of -" he drops his voice to his best 'batman' voice, " ooookay but you may feel some discomfort..." and now dropping the voice laughs, " never saw Donatello ninja vanish so fast."


Raphael bwhahahaa's and lightly punches Raph's shoulder, " I have picked up bad habits from your brother."


" don't you mean your lover?"


" Hey we haven't crossed that line!"


" Yeeeeeeet." Lee joins in teasing himself mostly and Raphie chuckling a bit. And finally food being brought in a platter of wheat and rye like bread sticks and thick stew and water!

HA! Alright, BigM is okay in Raph's book. And it sounds like Raph and his larger counterpart have something in common. That's awesome.

"Your Donnie a scrawny geek too?" He chuckled at BigM before turning to his counterpart with a raised eyeridge. Well... compared to the rest of them? Because this Mike is huuuuge! And Raph is actually rather disinclined to pick on the guy. He's not really interested in Revenge of the Mikeys if this is one of them!

"You picked up big words from Lee... in a week or whatever we been here, but not your own brothers? Is your Donnie broken or something? Do you not have one? Wait... ya said he's inta sock puppets or something..." Pretty sure Raphie's Donnie must be broken.

And a fist bump to BigM for that last jab. Good one.

The latest peek a boo had by boys pop out at the same time so close across Erica's back as she had shifted her herself to lay flat so the lower half of her body was out in the cart and the top half in here with them all chuckling and listening tot he teasing and giving the paper with the map and messages a bit of a shake to draw attention back to it. The boys had almost bumped noses and it caused Chompy to squeaky squeak in surprise and slid down her wing back to the waist of her where he'd climbed up and Randal to duck back down on the other side sniggering. Both their little tails waggling away with their game.


Erica chuckles looking over her shoulders, not minding them playing on her tail curled up along her back to provide support if she was worried.


BigM picks up the paper to read again and laugh at the banter grinning at Raph, " yeah he is, but he is also the tallest of us so there is that, and freaky smart." He looks about and then thanks as Lee pulls a pen from his magic pockets and sits for a moment puzzling, before adding his new short name which he thoroughly approved of by the way and scratching out Donatello's name to scribble BigD there sniggering a bit at the obvious crude double entendre.


Raphie shrugs a bit, " Nah, Don uses so many big words if I attempted them I'd be tongue tied for ever... if anyone's broken it's me - I never paid that much attention before but listenin to this guy blah honour this and blah blah must reclaim your homes blah blah this I guess something actually stuck." Ignoring with a bit of a grin and taking the paper and pen to add his name... oy vie he was never going to live Raphie down! and Randal's to the page.


Lee rolls his eyes at being ignored and placing the platter down he gestures, " eat and drink guys...." ooooh happy to add Lee to the growing names of turtles. then glancing at Raph, " and I know what you mean with what was April thinking Raph - but it's obvious she's always loved Donnieboy she just... was afraid if they tried to be more than friends and broke up then it would be awkward for the whole team and she'd lose her best friend. I say about dang time she got over that fear and put our brother out of his misery." well maybe more obvious to him because who else could Lee talk to in the early days of his obsession with Karai after the first blinding powder smoke bomb to the face? and likewise she spilled all over him about her thoughts and fears, neither of them technically hid this from the other they just never spoke openly about it - and points along the map. " the fulcrie say there are sheep like and horse like peoples along the up coming valleys might even find some goat.... well from what I can translate they will be from the descriptions... If you can find them for us Erica and either make first contact or alert us of trouble we can make treks to collect them... if they'll join the fight that is.' Pointing this out for his fellow 'genio innocuo' and the girl who will be doing the flying and seeking.

Erica seemed to be enjoying the kids' game, so Raph didn't do much about it. He just let it continue so long as everyone involved seemed to enjoy it.

Raph snorted at BigM's double entendre.

And there's another look at BigM. Uh huh... Raphie is totally gaga. He makes absolutely fake googoo eyes for BigM. Folding his hands together and batting eyelids.

"Reclaim your homes because hooonnoooorrrr." Yeah, he's probably going a little far. He's actually purposely trying to poke buttons.  Whether it's Leo's or Raphie's... he doesn't much care. He's sort of curious how far he can push his counterpart. But hey, if it's both, so much the better! And yeah... there might be a liiiiitttle of the drugs in his system still talking.

Raph goes about getting himself a bit to eat and drink as ordered, but makes a puppet hand and 'blah blah' face at the talk about Donnie and April. Yeah... Raph knows she liked him from the start, and held back, but he's not about to give that one to Leo so easily!

"Yeah, yeah. Whatever, Leo."

And though it might not be completely obvious, he is watching what Leo is showing on the map.

Chompy pops up but Randal is still sniggering - he looks for his buddy... and hops on the spot with a squeak when Randal sits up - Randal equally surprised churrrrrups and the pair dissolve into giggling - their tails going so hard they might be waggling backsides now.

Raphie snorts and lightly punches Raph's shoulder again, not enough to hurt really, and mostly because he didn't mind the teasing play - and partially a warning his counterpart was at least edging closer to 'I might toss sympathies for recovering sedative addicts out the cart curtain' but not quiet there yet.


Whilst BigM laughs out loud at the play acting making his own best fast of fluttering eyelashes he didn't have and best easy breezy cover gal magazine pose - earning himself a similar punch. And sniggering about it.


Lee hahah's and shrugs, [color=#0066ff]" hah actually not far off it, I guess I did sink back into Capt Ryan nerdishness out there.... but it worked - I think... for now... certainly with the Fulcrie not sure how it will go with the rest. Hesitating in adding Raph's name to the paper too, offering it too him to do himself before just presuming to, his brother would just shove it back at him if still not quiet up to it.


Then it would be passed to BigM.


Erica listening and minding the playing boys as well as being their jungle gym hums a little, " if you could send some young fulcrie ahead to tell other herd lots about this victory you might find some more curious to meet and listen and maybe then such will work on them too."

Oh... try it!

Though realistically, Raph's likely to get creamed. He's still a little 'altered.'

And when Leo admits to having maybe nerded out on the Captain Ryan thing, Raph is muttering.

"Ya think? If ya hadn't, I'd wonder what dimension you were from."

Raph accepted the paper and added a scrawl that was probably his name. It certainly wasn't any easier to write in this state, but in all fairness, his handwriting was never particularly good. He shoves it back to Lee, who can either leave it as is, or make the scrawl look like an actual word. Raph doesn't care.  Actually... may not really notice. He's busy watching the kids.

He can't help but chuckle at the kiddoes. They're just too darned cute! They might just wag their tails right off! Can you wag tails off? He sure hopes not... That would be pretty painful for the little guys.

Maybe he should get a little more food and water in his system. He's still asking drunk questions of himself.

Raphie is sniggering and mocks thinking about pummelling his counterpart, but it only ends in a playing noogie over the head - because the guy was still mostly sedated and it's not fair. And well he'd enjoy the challenge of facing a fellow hot stubborn head.


He lets go when Lee, taking back the paper shoos him up, and begins fussing a little, " well no need to worry brother I am, sadly for meee--" teasing long suffering siiiigh, " of your dimension, still your sensei... and as such I think you two should try to get some actual sleep and work off the last of the drugs in your systems, I have to check and make sure the peoples are at least trying to stick to the travel arrangements to avoid being taken unawares. And Raphie will keep watch over you guys and the kids as he doesn't like much public speaking."


The name was fine all considering and he double checks the maps before folding everything back up, placing away the maps they found and giving Erica back the scribbled notes. Raphie snorting a bit more and nodding, " hate it..." about the public speaking.


And their bouncy little game took them over Erica's shoulders, she shifts catching the toddler and his little alien friend in her arms smiling at them nuzzling their little heads.


Raphie reaches over and scoops Randal and then Chompy into his own lap chuckling at the girls little coo of disappointment he hoped which ever turtle she chosen gives her one of her own soon. And he reaches into the plater of food to rip up som different options for the boys, meat chunks and the flat bread for Randal, not sure what Chompy ate so looking at Raphie, " uuum whats okay to give your boy?"


Erica pouting and tucking the folded paper back into her little leather pouch pipes in, " he's had no bad reactions to my milk." Though his mouth was not much suited to suckling - " and the small game and fish and tubers and leafy greens I've managed to hunt and find when it was just us." She'd had to squirt streams of milk into his mouth but he'd seem to like it. But she looks at Raph too for the answer, she'd done her best to care for the little guy when she found him.

Raph is amused by the noogie. He has to be reaching Raphie's limits. He pushes away, and the annoyance is more mock than real.

Raph's expression is just shy of the puppet 'blah blah' thing he had done earlier as Leo reminds him that he's his Sensei now, and tells him to get some rest.

"Yeah, yeah. Whatever you say, Leo."

Sure... he'll do it, but... not without acting like he won't first.

And the grin sort of shifts to a smirk as Leo mentions that Raphie hates public speaking. "Can't blame you for that one... Raphie." Metaphorical Pooooooke.

He looks over at the question about what to feed Chompy.

"Eh... most things we'd eat are fine. Well... not what Mikey would eat. Has ta be like actual food. No tin cans or moldy mice and shi- uh... stuff like that, 'kay?" There were kids present... and Randal could probably repeat things... Really, Chompy is a space turtle. Raph isn't entirely sure what's okay or not either, but so far... most of the things Raph himself would eat seem fine.

"Might avoid beans though... ends with fire comin' outta both ends."

Lee laughs - oh he pats Raphies shoulder - ooomphs a little as the BigM snugs him for a moment. And it does feel good Lee admits, then a soft pat to Raph'sshoulder, he knows he'll fight it and probably wont rest until a happily fed Chompy is snuggled close to him but the touch is a way to express just how glad he is to have Raph and Chompy back. To see them, " Hah yeah that was not a good day in the lair when Chompy and Mikey decided to eat beans. All sorts of wrong." They'd had to crash at the Mutanimals place for a week.


He waits a bit to make sure BigM and Raph were comfortable pulling on his van helsing monster hunter gear to look impressive as he checks on the army. Helping Raphie get the kids more situated to feed them both -


And smiling at Erica as she offers BigM and Raph a nuzzle to their cheeks, " would you like to rest too?" kindly to her before he'd make the pretty pearly white female fly for him.

Erica nuzzles and purrs and sits back, then curls up making herself comfortable. "I will nap with Raph and BigM and the little ones for a little while yes, I have been busy much and flown a long way." bit of a yawn and stretch of her wings and she smiles watching Raphie and Lee settle the boys to get them to eat.

Randle grins at Raph and offers some of the stringy meat he'd just been given to munch on, Chompy beside him making happy squeaky sounds and waggling his tail.

Annnnd she understands this part of the talk, " Ah soooounds like the sorts of reactions some damonfeuer and drakes and dragons have in reaction to ingesting DragonRoot.... terrible wind... aggression and crazy fire... I am glad I have no fire for that reason."

Raphie is amused, he moves closer to Raph so he can take his little one - chuckling at Lee's mummying and shoves him lightly, " no one but the BigM there... hahhaa squeezing you can sleep with you mom henning them man ease up.' he teases... cause indeed BigM's arms were still wrapped about Lee and the big guy snoring.


Chuckling at Raph's warning and Ericas follow up not to mention the mention from Lee, " sounds like the time Mike ate way too many hotdogs and chilli cheese pizza...."

"Aw, come on, BigM... Really?" It was mock annoyance and almost a chuckle at BigM falling asleep on Lee.

"Guess he likes ya too. What is it with you and pseudo-siblings?" Though this is a Mikey. Probably willing to snuggle with anyone even vaguely warm.

He accepted Chompy and settled the little guy on his shoulder. Then he picked out a nice piece of meat from the platter, and ripped off a piece for the little alien. While Chompy was working on that, Raph ate some himself. He considered this a rather convenient way to feed the little guy.

Though if he hadn't just been so worried about him, he probably would have set up a little plate next to Randal. He's not ready yet though. He wants to snuggle his baby!

"Didn't have Chompy yet for that one, but we vacated after the mouse carcass and tin can pizza too."

Lee sniggers and - well BigM was a large dude so it took a bit of careful wriggling to slip free of him, and laugh silently because the guy then wriggled closer to Raph... in a manner that clearly hinted to Lee when snooze was upon them all he was going to spoon whoever he was close to. " It's my warm naturally nurturing presence clearly." moving to pat Erica's shoulder and nod, " okay get some rest." then chuckle at her words and nod, and the horror stories of farts and homes. " well... lets hope BigM does not share that particular trait." looking faintly horrified trying not to imagine and probably rightly so a BigM meant bigger stank and noise... He pauses and lingers longer to make sure his brother and Chompy were fed and watered and comfy before he would leave.


Raphie sniggers, making wide eyes and disbelieving, " naaah way a Mikey would ruin a pizza like that... surely?" missing Lee make a small motion of his head for Raph to fill Raphie in on the horrifying diet of their little brother with the truly iron stomach.


Randal beams and shifts closer to Chompy, to do this he had to pat Raph's knee again shyly looking to sit there. Missing Raphie's and Lee's muffled squeee sounds. Because he just wanted to eat with and sit near his new little friend, Chompy wagging his tail and munching away on the meat chunks too!

"Uh huh..." The sarcasm is dripping off the sort statement. Though... well... Leo's comment probably wasn't entirely off base. He then sort of met the slightly horrified look with one of his own. Because... yeah... he was definitely on the same wavelength with his brother about the larger Mikey is larger stank... Oh... this is something he's just going to have to let rest and not try to imagine.

He shares a little more of the food and drink with Chompy and turns to his counterpart's words.

"Oh yes way. Mouse carcass and tin can pizza, and worse. Never did find out what he used to ice the algae and worm cake... He said we didn't want to know. And if he says we don't want to know what's in the food, we probably don't want to know, and we definitely don't want to eat it." He took another bite and offered some to Chompy. He doesn't bother to swallow before talking again. "He ate out everything in the fridge after we'd been away for three months. Donnie was sure he'd kick the bucket after that stunt. Just gassed out the lair for a week."

Though to be fair, they had all eaten their share of algae and worms as children. It was not a dietary staple that he missed.

When Randal comes over looking for a place to sit closer to Chompy, Raph obliges him, picking him up and settling him on his knee closest to Chompy. The plate of food is now being shared three ways.

Chompy squeals out his odd warbling little chirp when Randal is closer - through a mouthful of food.


Randal too - happy churring his little tail thudding against Raph's leg.


He missed his brothers! so having a little play mate filled that feeling for him!

Raphie.... looks alarmed... and woooows a little, " and I thought mmmyyy Mike ate some questionable things!... thanks I think I would have nightmares thinking about that now!"


And he grins moving closer to Raph and watching the boys eat together helping Raph out by tearing up food and putting in one the shared plate eating a few bits here and there himself. " sooo algae and worms?"


Lee nods, " it was an easily accessible food and that was all we could hope for when younger, I don't miss that time either." he smiles and is sure Raph didn't miss it enjoying the scene and the way Big M snuggled around the seated turtles. He was a big little brother hah! and Erica snoozed. Lee would let her have a substantial one before seeing if she was ready for a fly.


He grins watching the little guys, " I think Randal is happy to have a little friend - hehe well if you guys are alright I will check on the convoy - Raphie try to get a bit of a nap too alright?" because they would have more eyes to take turn on watch it would be nice to start catching some long awaited zzz's.

There's a slight grunt. "Welcome to our lives." Regarding Mikey's eating habits.

Raph isn't really listening as his brother speaks. Instead, he's sort if settling himself, and the kids if they're willing,down to rest. Hopefully far enough from the living weighted blanket to keep from being his snuggle buddy.

Randal yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawns - mid chewing on a stringy bit of meat and then cause Rap was getting comfortable he does, wriggling onto his side. Chompyis of course happy to curl up, in his own way tucking back inside his shell in the crook of Raph's neck and shoulder to sleep, he would probably be moved.


Randal meanwhile is happy to sleep there - as long as Raphie held his hand! - and chirped in a soft demanding way until Lee patted his little plastron - ooooh yeah!

Little tail wagging and surrounded by the new big turtles and his two big faves close he is asleep before he knows it.

Lee tries not to fuss too much about Raph, but knows even so that his brother was happy to see him, they were close after all and best friends and even as much as Raph got under his skin it was usually done out of some twisted affection he was sure.


Randal's request was met with a eeeeeee sort of smile and Lee pats his little plastron until the little boy is drifting away to sleep, his look at him content and affectionate. Loving.


Not rushing this moment of separation, he did have to check on the convoy. And there is a bump of shoulders against Raphie's shoulder.

Fussing isn't exactly appreciated, but Raph knows it's just Leo's way of showing he cares. So for now, he actually sort of allows what his brother is doing. He is glad to see Leo. Disappointed that Donnie and Mikey are somewhere else, lost in this crazy land, but it seemed that they're at least alright for now, and that was evidently all Raph was going to get for the time being. And maybe during one of Leo's sort of bumps a little closer to him Raph responds just a sliiiiight bit. It's his way of saying 'love you too, bro.'

Raph's not stupid. He knows his brother had been worried. Probably still was, just as Raph was, with Donnie and Mikey still separated from them. But at least he and Leo were together again. It was something. He sort of felt bad for Raphie and BigM, completely separated from all of their brothers.

He shifted Chompy into a safer spot as he settled down to sleep. There's a soft, almost not there chuckle at Randal's way of settling down.

Okay... Raphie and Leo and the kid were sort of a cute, if completely bizarre, little family.

Raphie watches the others settle and rest and decides he would probably snooze lightly whilst Lee went out to make sure his little army of volunteers were on track. Not sleep deep but snooze to keep an ear on his companions as it was possible as the last of the sedatives leave them they may have withdrawals and or be sick or need some other help getting out of the cart momentarily.


His hand caught in Randal's little fingers he grins and waits until the little fingers lose grip and Raph is comfortable looking - chuckling when the BigM curls around them. of course he would.


Erica seemed quiet happily snoozing so he was sure she was fine. A bump of his shoulder to Lee's and gesture with his head as he gets comy hand near Randal still but resting back to just chill. Lee giving him his bandana to add to the scents close to the little fellow.


And Lee rubs all heads before slipping out silently. Raphie batting away the hand lightly.

Raph is fairly comfy, a little restless, but not too bad, and settled. Chompy is snuggled up against him, and that's always a nice comfort.

There's a slight grunt as BigM curls up around him, but even that isn't paid a whole lot of mind. And Raph allowed the head touch from Leo, not bothering to brush it off or anything. Either he's too tired to do so, which the restlessness actually suggests otherwise, or he's actually sort of appreciative of his brother's presence. He'll never tell.

He is restless for a time before finally falling asleep.

Annnd only when Lee too slipped out quietly did Raphie get comfy. So very amused by the restlessness and his little boy was sleeping!! Oh lordy he was so wrapped about the little turtles fingers!


Literally! He shifts into lotus and slowly focuses... slowly... before he felt the brush of brothers. Time he try to reach back out too! Slowly because he was not so practiced at this. But he had a good grasp none the less. And Leo would help him once he sensed what was going on Raphie was sure.

Leo is well and truly distracted. As he rows, he responds to Raph's touch as best he can. Can't talk now. It's a light, brief touch. Enough to say Leo's okay and will reach out as soon as he can. He is just... indisposed at the moment.

And worried. So very worried. Raph is probably skilled enough to feel that in the contact. Who the worry is for may be less clear.

Raphie has to wonder as he lets go what worried Leo so much. True the guy was a basket case and a candidate for a mutant heart attack at forty cause he was a pro worry wart. Still it did leave the red glad turtle as he opens his eyes and decides as he waits for a while he'll doze a little and stretched out beside his fellow Raph.


Thinking amused he liked the lil fire cracker him. Sure they would probably get under each other's skin but he liked him. Hah!


And so he waits and wonders and yep worries a bit too for big brother. Trusting Lee was not too far.

Randal and Chompy cuddle in close to Raph and both soft happy chirp when Raphie brushes their shells with his hand.


He is watching them snooze through on half open eyelid and he can hear beyond Lee's voice as he directs the column to spread out a little, so they were not a bunched easy target for raiders.


Hah he sounded like he may be busy for a while.

Raph is finally settling down. He snuggles into the kids, not even noticing what BigM may or may not be doing in his sleep. Raph is comforted by Chompy's presence. He doesn't need to worry about where the child is.

Raphie listens to the breathing around him, smiling " Lee is looking happier than I have seen him since I've known him, like my Leo, not knowin where you all were really bothers the mother henning the big brothers."


His hand brushing Raph as he rubs little shells.

Raph semi-batted at the hand. He's really too tired to care much, and he knows it had mostly been intended for the kids, but still, slight batting.

"Must be the blue."

He'll blame that, but the truth is, Raph's really worried about his younger brothers too, separated as they are. Sure Lee had assured him that they're at least alright for now, but... still... it was hard to be separated from them. At least he had Lee.

Sucks for BigM and Raphie though, separated from all their brothers.

"miiight be miiight be, hah Don would sprout some sciency stuff now I am sure... but I aint that bright." he says sheepishly letting the battering knock his hand away a little but finger still caressing the little faces. Mostly Randal's chuckling when the little guy wriggles a little.


" Randal here... he did something to Lee the first night we were all together. We fought a little at first, he just barely scraped a win - if wasn't the physical pain it was the worry of you guys that caused him a sort of... like a pstd episode? I've seen it before in my Leo...and Don. I don't know if Lee was sort of sleep ... talking? muttering? saying he failed yous yous are all gone -" voice soft, story slow, trying to put Raph to sleep but also let him know a little more about the boy snuggled with his little one. " Randal woke... crawled over and put his forehead against Lee's and... the shaking and muttering stopped he became calmer and slept... and hasn't done it since.... these little half babies of ours are... like yours, incredibly special." voice slowing and relaxed a smile. And he reaches past to pat the BigM's shoulder, brushing fingers over the tattooing and at least the touch made the guy spread out a little and stop spooning Raph so closely.

Raph sort of half chuckled. He had been sort of settling down, but his counterpart seemed chatty at the moment. Which was actually sort of fine with him... He's tired, and his mind wants to sleep... but his body is restless, occasionally twitchy. It's not really letting him sleep.

He sort of glances over at the mention of the PTSD episode. His description of Lee's sounds familiar. Raph has seen several in the past. Sometimes he tries to help, sometimes he just... lets it be. It's occasionally safer to just let it happen...

"He gets those. They come and go... Especially since we-- Raph had to pause there for a moment. "Since we lost Master Splinter."

There. He said it. He expects to hear why Raphie's brothers get them. Not that Lee didn't get them before that. It just seemed like it's been more often since. Though Raph can't really blame him. Raph's pretty sure he had an episode or two of his own after their dad passed. Not like Lee though. And it's been awhile. Raph's pretty sure his have stopped.

And he twists, almost staring at Raph then down at Randal. Especially now that he has a little relief from the big spoon.

"What'd he do? Lee say?" Does Lee even know this happened?

Raphie catches theunspoken question and siiighs alittle, " a collection of things, my Leo was betrayed and hurt and we were hurt and he... we almost all sacrificed ourselves and it caused a sort of downward spiral for my Leo for a while, he became my sort of angry and vengeful. And Don was suckeredintoa dystopian Shredder ruled future and had to deal with three deranged and older hurt brothers and a gone sensei... and that time Splinter got digitized and his data bits sent all over the internet.... and that time Don got double mutated, still not sure all that he remembers of that time. But yeah a collection of things set Don and Leo off into various sorts of similar episodes. Usually only Master Splinter can help them." he chatters quietly watching as BigM on his shell stretchs all the way out.


" still trippy to see such a huuuuge Mikey." he mutters breathing deep, but his brother had not reached out yet so he had time, and thought about the question. " Lee says he felt something - and it was like... sinking into a hot bath with a solar lamp. Or like that first long sip of a hot chocolate. Warming and soothing and very much like your dads presence. I'm sorry about him by the way... I ... can't imagine how painful that is."

"Dystopian futures are a bitch. Lee lived one of 'em too." Raph commented. "He was the big bad though..."

Raph sort of frowns through the story. Seemed Raphie and his brothers had the same sort of shit that happened to Raph and his own brothers. Different, but similar.

"I don't remember much." If that is any sort of consolation. "But... I was mutated into a plant... Or demutated... or somethin' like that." Raph doesn't really know exactly what that was. But Donnie had said... Creep mutagen IV... or something like that, so... Honestly, he doesn't really care. He'd been returned to normal.

Well... close enough. He's needed a little extra sunshine since, but whatever.

"See one? Try being snuggled by it!" It's mostly teasing.

But really? That's a lot of snuggly turtle... Like... a LOT.

Raph is listening to the description of what Randal did for Lee, and he gently strokes the little guy's forehead. Sort of a nonverbal 'thanks' for helping his brother. He then grunts at Raphie's condolences. Raph would rather not think about it, thanks.  He acknowledges the statement, not quite thanking his counterpart for it.

" a plant?!' his voice didn't rise but it grew incredulous... " how'd - oh your Donnie got you back? wow! and no after effects? like my Don has to avoid any food or drinks that might be over stimulating." curious and whispering and sensing waiting for a familiar touch and still slow voiced so if Raph goes to sleep he can tail off.


And it dawns on him then, " so that's why your Lee is so experienced and good at getting people to follow him, wow hard to imagine an evil Leo of any sort. Must haunt your brother that one, know Don still has nightmares."


A bit of a grin watching the soft touch to Randal. The little guy and the Chompy purr in those cute churrs. A laugh, " well he still hasn't farted on us so it's looking good. and... to think he says he's the shortest of his brothers...'

Raph shrugged. "Mikey called me Daisy until I was well enough to catch 'im. Apparently I had one or something." Raph rolled over a bit so he was at leasta facing his counterpart. He rolled his shoulders slightly. His arms felt restless. Like they wanted to move, though his brain wanted to sleep.

"Yeah, DonnieBoy figured out something. Damn... that sucks. How'd he manage no coffee? Mine practically lives on it. Nah. Nothing like that. Just need a little more time in the sunlamp than I used to."

Raph nods at the information about Lee, but he's putting his head down again. "Yeah... he's got quite the 'team' fighting against the Kraang. Trying to make sure that future don't happen." A yawn, but his arms are still restless.

There's a bit of a face at the idea of being farted on by BigM. It has got to be only a matter of time. And that's somewhat concerning.

" bwhahah daisy, gonna have to remember that one - mmmm and a good name for a little girl." he somewhat playfully teases and watches his counterpart. Chuckling when BigM mumbles.


" not fartin in here will pok tail out...." not really paying attention and mostly still asleep but he heard that! and grins sort of lazily as he responds.


" well thanks... for that... especially as Lee will want the pretty girl here functional for flying soonish." He points at the damonfeuer snoozing near them and smiles a bit as Raph, " yep Don doesn't do anything stronger than dad's teas... and a few of them he is wary of to be honest. hehehe wow think your Don brought himself coffee in this world? or maybe some sort of alternative might be here? would hate to think of the withdrawals if not. Everything okay/' noting some of the restlessness.

Raph makes a face that is somewhere between sort of agreeing on the little girl front, and being annoyed that the name he was called is suitable for a little girl.

He chuckles at the farting out the window. "Appreciated, BigM." A lot more than his own Mikey would do. His Mikey would probably take pride in gassing out the cart...

"Donnie definitely brought his own coffee. Just like Mikey definitely brought pizza." Raph confirmed with a chuckle. He sort of frowned at the explanation of Raph's Don not going for anything stronger than tea. That sucks. "Glad I wasn't stuck with that." It takes a moment to sort of realize how that sounded. "Sorry, I mean... no soda or beer, nothing?"

"'m fine." He rubs his right arm with his left and shifts a bit.

BigM grins at them and thumbs up, " no worries lilbigbros from other - wow I was going in a bad direction with that...." he does not finish and keeps resting big blue eyes closed and relaxed.


Erica breaths deep beisde them all.


Randal curled up mostly about Chompy the kids well and truly out of it by now. Raphie searches again feeling for his brothers - not sensing them but trusting to when Leo was ready and able he would even not so practiced at it. " a total bummer.... hey your Donnie turned you back from plant think he might have enough of a grip on double mutations to maybe give my Don a little help with it some day? I think...not entirely certain cause I am not a brainiac that my Don is is part too worried anything too stimulating would make the double mutation reactivate... and he's always been a little more sensitive to stimulants than the rest of us but more so since he was a monster mutant turtle." wondering.


And eyeing the shifting about, " ya sure my brothers and I know all the pressure points, Leo more than all of us - even once for tails! -if you'd like me to help settle some restlessness."

Raph chuckles softly at BigM. He likes this massive Mikey. Guy is pretty cool.

Like his counterpart, Raph has no idea what Donnie does. "Dunno, Maybe. He's counteracted a few different mutations. Failed to counteract more though. Guess it's possible. Yeah... guess I'd be worried about bein' a monster too."

Raph considered the offer of accupressure. "It's my arms." He finally admitted, sitting up so Raphie could actually maybe help.

A deep laughing at BigM and he can hear not too far away and pretty sure Raph could too Lee busy directing the Fulcre to spread further out a little in this trekking keep close enough to watch each others carts and backs but far enough away should an attack come they can respond or get out of dodge without getting taken out straight away.


Another snigger as BigM mutters about bossy boots, chuckling himself.


He nods a little, ' I'll keep it in mind to poke either your don or my DonnieBoy at each other - huh maybe with other Dons about it might be feasible too... mmmm it'd be nice for my brother to be able to enjoy the od soda or decaf without worries." he watches Raph sit up and nods moving closer to first just feel the arms and watch Raph closely for any hidden injuries they may not know about. But it was most likely the twitching restlessness was the last residual bits of sedative leaving the system so as long as all is good he will acupressure the points. This arm first then the other.

Raph is chuckling at BigM's words. "Oh, he's terrible!" Lee was absolutely a bossy boots! He'll say that, but he loves his brother, and really sort of wishes he'd come back to the cart.

"I'm sure they could come up with something." Well... he doesn't really know that, but it seems like the thing to say. He does feel bad for the guy who can't even drink a soda without fear of turning into a monster. That sounds way worse than spending a few hours as a plant.

He's not injured. It's definitely the sedative leaving his body, and maybe a hint of withdrawals that are still to come. Though he's not really saying it yet, he appreciates the help.

"You know the Healing Hands thing Lee does?" Raphie had said accupressure, and Raph's aware that's something else. He's just curious if Raphie knows the technique or not.